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72x Faster Software Delivery with a Former AI Skeptic

Odevo Lead Engineer Dominic Warchalowski explains how to redesign Agile processes and repository structures to deliver software 72x faster using agentic AI.

Dominic Warchalowski · Lead Engineer, Odevo
72x Faster Software Delivery with a Former AI Skeptic

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Benedikt Stemmildt
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Hi, I'm Benedikt Stemmildt

I've spent most of my working life somewhere between a terminal and a whiteboard — first as an engineer who loved shipping late at night, later as the person trying to make that sustainable for a whole team.

Today I run hackers&wizards, a small studio that helps product teams build software they can still understand a year later. A lot of what I know came from conversations over coffee, so this podcast is really just those conversations, recorded.

“Good software is mostly good conversations, repeated often enough.”

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Bridging the Skills Gap: Insights from Agentic Coding Training
EP 1355 min
Episode 13
04 March 2026Benedikt Stemmildt

Bridging the Skills Gap: Insights from Agentic Coding Training

Benedikt Stemmildt · Co-Founder & Co-CEO, hackers&wizards

Daniel Jones and Benedict Stemmelt dive into the technical and organizational shifts of agentic software engineering. They move past the hype to discuss the transition from manual coding to building software factories that automate feature delivery. The conversation explores critical technical hurdles, including context window reasoning degradation and the necessity of reverse engineering model defaults to steer agents effectively. By referencing DORA 2025 metrics, they illustrate why AI adoption accelerates high-performing teams while exposing systemic bottlenecks in lower-maturity organizations.

Software Factories: From Outputs to Business Outcomes
EP 1272 min
Episode 12
18 February 2026Mike Gehard

Software Factories: From Outputs to Business Outcomes

Mike Gehard · Software Engineering and AI Lead, Rise8

Daniel Jones and Mike Gehard explore the sudden rise of agentic software factories, where humans are prohibited from writing or reviewing code. Drawing from Mike’s background in chemical engineering, they discuss applying industrial feedback loops and the theory of constraints to software development. The conversation shifts from technical implementation to the economic and psychological impacts of AI-native engineering. They examine how architecture, testing, and developer roles must evolve when software becomes a commodity and the primary bottleneck moves from output to specification and outcomes.

Evals, reducing hallucinations, & AI-native development
EP 1159 min
Episode 11
29 January 2026Amy Heineike

Evals, reducing hallucinations, & AI-native development

Amy Heineike · Founding AI Engineer, Tessl

In this episode, Deejay sits down with Amy Heineike, founding AI engineer at TESSL, to explore the structural shift toward AI-native development. They discuss the necessity of machine-optimized documentation registries to eliminate agent hallucinations and the cultural transition from deterministic logic to a biological science mindset. Amy details the mechanics of building evaluation harnesses, the pitfalls of contradictory steering, and how the role of the software engineer is evolving into a high-level architect of intentional outcomes and anti-fragile systems.

DORA 2025, the Psychology of Agentic Coding, and Value Stream Management
EP 1063 min
Episode 10
22 December 2025Rob Edwards

DORA 2025, the Psychology of Agentic Coding, and Value Stream Management

Rob Edwards · Developer Experience And Application Delivery Lead, Google

Daniel Jones joins Google’s Rob Edwards to explore the 2025 DORA report and Rob’s psychology thesis on AI. They discuss how Value Stream Management acts as a force multiplier for AI teams by identifying hidden bottlenecks. Rob details the psychological shift from Coder to Conductor, explaining how agentic workflows demand system-level thinking and metacognition. The conversation also tackles the risks of burnout, the loss of learning by osmosis for juniors, and how AI helps introverts validate ideas.

From Tech Stacks to Mindsets: The Psychology of Transformation
EP 0967 min
Episode 09
05 December 2025Dan Young

From Tech Stacks to Mindsets: The Psychology of Transformation

Dan Young · Co-Founder, When & How Studios

Host Daniel Jones reconnects with former business partner Dan Young to discuss the critical human element often missing in digital transformations. Reflecting on their journey from Cloud Native consulting to organizational psychology, they explore why technical mandates fail and how professional identity impacts the adoption of AI. The conversation covers practical strategies like Liberating Structures, invitation-based change, and the power of listening to navigate complex power dynamics and build effective, resilient teams.

67 min05 December 2025
From Coding to Context Switching: An AI Retrospective
EP 0861 min
Episode 08
13 November 2025Eliott Beaty

From Coding to Context Switching: An AI Retrospective

Eliott Beaty · VP of Engineering, Fruition

In this episode, Deejay welcomes back Elliott Beatty to discuss the long-term reality of adopting agentic AI coding assistants. While development velocity has soared, the team now faces 'human' challenges like burnout and context-switching fatigue. Elliott explains why frontend teams benefit more than backend engineers and how accelerated coding exposed major bottlenecks in QA and UAT. They also explore the shift toward Model Context Protocol (MCP) servers, the necessity of feature flags, and why strong leadership is crucial for sustainable AI implementation.

61 min13 November 2025
Why AI Isn't Just More Software: A Guide to ML, MLOps, and Reinforcement Learning
EP 0774 min
Episode 07
28 October 2025Phil Winder

Why AI Isn't Just More Software: A Guide to ML, MLOps, and Reinforcement Learning

Phil Winder · CEO, Winder.AI

Why can't you apply Agile sprints to an AI project? This episode dives into why ML development is 'fuzzy' and non-linear, unlike traditional software. We explore the 'nothing, nothing, something' problem that frustrates engineers and managers alike. Discover the real-world challenges of MLOps, from testing non-deterministic models to deployment. The conversation also breaks down Reinforcement Learning (RL), explaining how it learns from exploration, the high-stakes risks, and its role in training LLMs.

74 min28 October 2025
AI on Nightmare Difficulty: Secure Code Generation in the US Government
EP 0659 min
Episode 06
08 October 2025Mike Gehard

AI on Nightmare Difficulty: Secure Code Generation in the US Government

Mike Gehard · Director of R&D, Rise8

In this episode, Deejay talks with Mike Gehard, Director of R&D at Rise8, a custom software development firm on a mission to create 'a future where fewer bad things happen because of bad software.' Mike explains how they navigate the highly regulated 'nightmare difficulty' environment, from adhering to strict NIST standards to handling classified data. Discover their practical approach to security, including running Claude code in isolated containers, leveraging different secure endpoints like AWS GovCloud, and their ambitious goal to enable a single person to take a project from idea to production.

59 min08 October 2025
The Banker Who Built An AI Factory
EP 0563 min
Episode 05
02 September 2025Nick Gushchin

The Banker Who Built An AI Factory

Nick Gushchin · Managing Partner & Co-Founder, Swiss AI Chatbot Factory

Nick Gushin's journey from 18 years in banking to teaching himself Python with ChatGPT. The develop fast, fail fast philosophy behind Swiss AI Chatbot Factory.

63 min02 September 2025
Introducing Waves of Innovation
EP 0153 min
Episode 01
19 June 2025Pini Reznik

Introducing Waves of Innovation

Pini Reznik · Chief Executive Officer, re:cinq

Pini Reznik introduces Waves of Innovation. What does it mean to lead through change? Why is AI Native different? A conversation on transformation context.

53 min19 June 2025