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PodcastAugust 5, 2025
Building AI agents in sensitive financial enterprises
AI IN DEBT COLLECTIONCONVERSATIONAL AIFINANCIAL TECHNOLOGYCOMPLIANCE AND AI
Real-world AI agents in financial debt collection. Learn about compliance challenges, data quality, and ethical standards in sensitive financial operations.
Hosted by:
Deejay
Featuring:
Qamir Hussain, Aryza
Episode Transcript
Deejay (00:00) Qamir Hussain. Thank you very much for joining me. You are head of AI at Arisa. When we met, You were at Webio, which I gather has been acquired. So congratulations on that. Can you start off by explaining what it is that Webio does and what you do and what kind of AI-based solution...
Episode Highlights
- •Qamar's team built an in-house AI platform to assist agents with sensitive debt collection conversations at scale.
- •The AI acts as a co-pilot for human agents, using a human in the loop approach to flag vulnerable customers and automate tasks.
- •They chose to fine-tune their own models in-house to maintain strict compliance and have full control over quality.
- •Out-of-the-box foundation models were not viable for their use case, showing only 20-30% accuracy on real conversations.
- •Having a large, high-quality dataset of existing, anonymized conversations was the key to successfully training their models.
- •The team developed custom internal tools to manage datasets and evaluate model performance because open-source options were not suitable.
- •Continuous evaluation is critical, as shown when they created a new complaint intent after discovering misclassifications in production data.
- •AI maintenance is fundamentally different from traditional software because models are non-deterministic and can give different outputs for the same input.
- •Qamar argues that a detail-oriented QA mindset is the most important skill for an AI engineer to handle ambiguity and find failure points.


