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The Banker Who Built An AI Factory
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PodcastSeptember 2, 2025

The Banker Who Built An AI Factory

AI CHATBOTSPROMPT ENGINEERINGBANKER TO CODERAI HALLUCINATIONS

Nick Gushin's journey from 18 years in banking to teaching himself Python with ChatGPT. The develop fast, fail fast philosophy behind Swiss AI Chatbot Factory.

Hosted by:
Deejay
Featuring:
Nick Gushchin, Swiss AI Chatbot Factory

Episode Transcript

Deejay intro In this episode, I'm talking to Nick Gushin, who is a co-founder of the AI Swiss chatbot factory. Try saying that company name several times in a row very quickly when you're recording the intro to a podcast. Nick is an ex high flying banker with a five degrees who had a chance encounte...

Episode Highlights

  • After 18 years in banking, Nick's journey began when a stranger on a plane revealed ChatGPT could write Python code from a text request.
  • Using ChatGPT and YouTube podcasts as his tutors, Nick taught himself Python from scratch, starting with a simple hello world command.
  • He decided to leave banking for good after one of his personal chatbot projects attracted over a thousand active users in its first month.
  • Out-of-the-box foundation models were not viable for their use case, showing only 20-30% accuracy on real conversations.
  • Embracing a develop fast, fail fast philosophy, Nick built over 20 pet projects on Python to accelerate his learning and test ideas.
  • He met his co-founder, Robert, after presenting his machine learning algorithm at a Zurich conference where he was seeking collaborators.
  • They began by manually building smarter AI chatbots for companies, combining Nick's sales logic with the latest AI models.
  • After repeatedly building chatbots through an eight-step process, they decided to automate each step with its own dedicated AI agent.
  • This automation became the Swiss AI Chatbot Factory, a platform that creates a fully trained chatbot from a URL in under three minutes.
  • The factory's conveyor pipeline uses multiple AI agents to check input, retrieve data, and prevent hallucinations before delivering a response.